Episode 18 · 48 min

Rethinking Brand, Multi-Touch Attribution, and Marketing Careers in the AI Era

About this Episode

In this episode of Future of Marketing, hosts Mada Seghete and Ethan Smith sit down with Kelly Hopping, CMO at 6sense, to unpack how AI is changing the way marketing teams are built, measured, and managed. Kelly explains why she no longer backfills roles one-for-one, how agents are shifting manual execution work, and why modern marketing teams need more senior strategic thinkers, editors, prompt engineers, and customer journey owners. She also shares how 6sense uses BDRs, AI email, event follow-up, multi-touch attribution, paid social, owned communities, and intent data to understand which accounts are in market, how buyers are forming shortlists, and where marketing should invest.

There is no moat out there of LLM or SEO or anything else that will replace pure brand loyalty. And so building that brand comes from a lot of those personal experiences and community.

Kelly Hopping

Topics Covered

Multi-Touch AttributionBrand BuildingMarketing CareersGTM Strategy
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AI is changing how CMOs build teams — Kelly no longer backfills roles one-for-one, instead asking whether an agent can automate the manual work, then reallocating headcount toward strategy, prompting, editing, or customer journey ownership

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BDRs are not dead — at 6sense, BDRs drive 64% of pipeline, but the model is different: AI handles research, follow-up, scheduling, and lower-segment volume, while humans focus on relationships and enterprise selling

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Brand is becoming more important in an AI-led buying journey, as more buyers start research in LLMs and build shortlists before talking to sales

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Kelly is skeptical of relying only on booth scans — at major events, 6sense looks at the full event ecosystem: booth, ancillary meetings, VIP dinners, practitioner events, and hosted experiences

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Multi-touch attribution as relative attribution helps Kelly understand which channels contribute across the full journey, especially for enterprise deals with six-to-nine-month sales cycles

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Kelly is shifting more attention toward the 95% of the ICP not yet in market — owned content, research, press releases, communities, podcasts, and keynotes shape what buyers and LLMs remember

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AI can execute fast but can also be confidently wrong — if the message, positioning, or strategy going in is unclear, AI will scale that confusion faster, making strategy and clarity more valuable

About the Guest

Kelly Hopping is CMO at 6sense, where she leads marketing for a GTM intelligence platform helping B2B revenue teams identify which accounts are actively researching and in market before they fill out a form or speak to sales.

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About the Hosts

Mada Seghete is the CEO and co-founder of Upside, a next-gen revenue intelligence platform for B2B leaders. Previously co-founded and was CMO of Branch, helping scale to $100M+ revenue. Cornell Engineering graduate with Masters and MBA from Stanford. Partner at XFactor Ventures investing in women founders and organizes yearly retreats for 100+ women founders.

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Ethan Smith is Founder and CEO of Graphite Growth, a premium Vertical AI Growth Agency that helps companies like Webflow, Notion, MasterClass, and Captions drive sustainable revenue growth via SEO, content, and AEO (Answer Engine Optimization). Ethan is also an adjunct professor at IE Business School.

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Guest

Kelly Hopping

CMO, 6sense

Hosts

Mada Seghete

CEO & Co-Founder, Upside

Ethan Smith

Founder & CEO, Graphite Growth

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